Big Break Atlantis

[Medic]

[quote name='Matsui' timestamp='1340122229' post='5128540']
all they are doing is shots inside 100 yards. move them back and actually play a hole. BTW- these girls are all terribly short hitters....pounding drivers 180 yards? what a joke. and hitting 80 yard shots to 30 feet and getting clapped? lol - what a joke.
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Ever been to the Bahamas? The wind there is a killer. Like to the tune of three clubs or more. Downwind, let the fun begin. But going against that - let's just say my normal 6 iron is around 165. Against that island wind I was hitting 6 from around 120 and still having to pure it. (Yes, I hit the ball high and have a hard time keeping them low outta such winds)

But bottom line these gals are probably hitting against those trade winds and it is likely that without the wind they would be getting another 30 or 40 yards. Still not Yani long but decent.

Just a guess on my part from having been there.

[78Staff]

[quote name='kekoa' timestamp='1340123105' post='5128646']
Wow, I had no idea Allison was dating Martin Kaymer. Seems like she'll be fine either way.
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dated... no longer a couple it seems.

MK probably got tired of her grating voice lol.

Ok, that's a bit below the belt, but come on, I can't believe no one has brought up that voice... I mean at first I though she was sick maybe, but it just kept on and on... gives me the willys....

[eric_b]

I'm starting to come to the conclusion that many posters have come to....this season is pretty weak. The calibre of entertainment just isn't there.....it looks like they went for a majority cast of lookers then filled in a few blank spots.....that leads to some pretty poor golf....sure, I loved Allison's elimination outfit....that much clevage is always a great idea....but at the end of the day, i'm watching golf channel cause i love golf....if i want T&A, I'll go somewhere else....

Some other observations:

-Marcella seems to be the strong favorite....which supports the whole "crappy golfers" argument consider she's never even sniffed at an LPGA card....

-Christina's short game continues to impress....but man, her full swing is crazy....she's so lanky that her full swing looks like everything is flying at right angles and different speeds....

-Allison's swing has gotta go.....when it works, it REALLY works....but when she misses....whoa, watch out. It was a particularly stark contrast in elimination with Marcella, who's swing is very compact and efficient.....allison sways laterally WAY too much and anything but consistency comes from going past parallel....

-Another episode, another sad elimination.....and by sad, I mean bad golf....Marcella played fairly well....bad drive, but got it up and down and then got a birdie.....but Allison was just silly. 250 yard hole, great drive....bogey. She's smoking cheap dope if she thinks that kind of game will make it on the LPGA....and driver off the deck? Come on.....hit 3 wood, that i'm thinking is a pretty safe bet she can actually hit properly, to lay up and try to get up and down for par.....driver off the deck brings nothing but big numbers into play....just a stupid move.

-there's been a lot of talk about Anya in this forum....and yes, she qualified and made the cut at the USWO....but am I the only one noticing her play has been pretty lousy the whole season? That, and she could use some anger management.....i know she has a history of abuse....but she really needs to settle down. If she was a guy, she'd be the guy everyone hates golfing with.....

-there's a lot of bad shots being hit this season from ~100 yards and in....again, these girls are smoking cheap dope if they think that kind of play will be competative on the LPGA. And to those that have thrown out the wind argument, I'll tell you what my wife told me.....she said "man, these girls are missing pretty badly from pretty close", so I said "yeah, but they're playing in a crazy wind" so my wife said "yeah, but they're professionals....can't they deal with that?"......yeah.....

As it stands now, i'm thinking marcela should win if she doesn't implode (although she's starting to show signs she will....and her symetra tour history is awfully telling)....christina may pull it off with her short game....and selanee has a chance if she can keep her nerves in check.....also, am I the only one that thinks selanee is hot and kind of looks like Julia Stiles?

Anya is way too eratic, glo misses too many shots and Kelly sucks.....yes, that's harsh, but she does.....Kelly is friggin' terrible.

I like to ramble.....

[78Staff]

eric_b I'm not going to quote the post but yeah we are pretty much in agreement there...

[eric_b]

[quote name='78Staff' timestamp='1340127693' post='5129166']
eric_b I'm not going to quote the post but yeah we are pretty much in agreement there...
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Thanks.....so you think selanee looks like Julia Stiles too?

[eric_b]

I'm probably biased....but the latest producer's blog on gc.com [url="http://www.golfchannel.com/news/big-break-atlantis/a-personal-touch/"]http://www.golfchannel.com/news/big-break-atlantis/a-personal-touch/[/url] almost seems like a rebuttal to a lot of what has been said in this thread (i.e. lack of talent, no drama, kind of boring, etc.).....

In addition, the video about the sound guys on the show ( [url="http://www.golfchannel.com/media/big-break-atlantis-bts-audio-061812/"]http://www.golfchannel.com/media/big-break-atlantis-bts-audio-061812/[/url] ) makes reference to the drama and whatnot....funny, how none of it seems to make the final show.....

curiouser and curiouser...

[78Staff]

[quote name='eric_b' timestamp='1340129044' post='5129354']
[quote name='78Staff' timestamp='1340127693' post='5129166']
eric_b I'm not going to quote the post but yeah we are pretty much in agreement there...
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Thanks.....so you think selanee looks like Julia Stiles too?
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lol...actually, yeah, kinda

[ProjectX]

I really wish Selanee would finish one swing. Just one. That's all I ask.

[eric_b]

This is gonna go poorly....but i'm gonna post it anyway....

So all this talk about the relatively poor play on this season's BB has led me to do a little research (you guessed it....I work for the government, so i got time to kill)....so I went to the Symetra tour's website and started digging into some of the stats....one jumped out and hit me in the face, scoring average (actually the money list also smacked me i in the face when i realized how little money there is to be had for these girls....i nearly take home enough in a month to be in the top 50....not to brag, but to point out how difficult it must be for these girls). Now assuming they play par 72 courses week to week....which i think is a resonable assumption....only 1....that's right....ONE....girl has a scoring average below par. A full shot over par puts you in the top 10. Compare that to the LPGA tour where the top 24 are below 72.....in context, even that isn't very good....the PGA tour has 160 players with a scoring average of below 72.....

So what does all this mean.....basically, the girls that can golf....and by that, I mean break par on a fairly consistent basis....are already in the bigs....and that leaves BB with the girls that are probably struggling on the symetra tour (as the ones that are doing ok are focusing on their games cause they'll actually make it to the LPGA)....example: Selanee (not being deragatory....she's my fave on the show) is sitting at 77 avg score....Carling Coffing (last all girls winner): 77.44.....

Dang.

Sorry....one other quick assumption.....I highly doubt you can blame the courses.....i can't imagine they're THAT hard.....or that its conditioning is THAT bad.

Don't get me wrong....any of these girls could give me 10 shots a side and still trounce me.....but i think this speaks volumes towards the quality of golf we're seeing on the show.....

[sigmapete1]

[quote name='eric_b' timestamp='1340129044' post='5129354']
[quote name='78Staff' timestamp='1340127693' post='5129166']
eric_b I'm not going to quote the post but yeah we are pretty much in agreement there...
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Thanks.....so you think selanee looks like Julia Stiles too?
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I completely agree on the Julia Stiles thing. I think she kind of sounds like her too, but that could just be my mind playing tricks on me because she looks like her. She is quickly becoming my favorite of the ones left. Although I kinda like Kelly too, she has quite a pair of. . . eyes.

Am I the only one who doesn't really care if they are good enough to play on the LPGA? Bottom line is that it is a show with pretty good looking girls with golf skill superior to most people on this board, playing an assortment of golf skills competitions, and occasionally running around in bikinis. And you guys are complaining that they needed a 6i to go 125 into a strong wind? Geez. They could be 10 handicaps and the show would still be fun to watch. Now the guys version, they better have 12 future major winners or else who cares.

[Mschumacher]

[quote name='sigmapete1' timestamp='1340134136' post='5129908']
[quote name='eric_b' timestamp='1340129044' post='5129354']
[quote name='78Staff' timestamp='1340127693' post='5129166']
eric_b I'm not going to quote the post but yeah we are pretty much in agreement there...
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Thanks.....so you think selanee looks like Julia Stiles too?
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I completely agree on the Julia Stiles thing. I think she kind of sounds like her too, but that could just be my mind playing tricks on me because she looks like her. She is quickly becoming my favorite of the ones left. Although I kinda like Kelly too, she has quite a pair of. . . eyes.

Am I the only one who doesn't really care if they are good enough to play on the LPGA? Bottom line is that it is a show with pretty good looking girls with golf skill superior to most people on this board, playing an assortment of golf skills competitions, and occasionally running around in bikinis. And you guys are complaining that they needed a 6i to go 125 into a strong wind? Geez. They could be 10 handicaps and the show would still be fun to watch. Now the guys version, they better have 12 future major winners or else who cares.
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I enjoy the show and I love the competitions. I think people are just saying that these girls don't have a realistic shot to be on the LPGA.

[Splitter]

Marcella may win on intimidation alone. When the other girls are saying "wow, she is human!" you know they're afraid of her. She's got the most fluid swing too...

Kelly cracks me up (in a good way). I bet she could beat most of those girls around her local track with no pressure. She is better than some of her shots indicate. But like all people who don't get enough time in, her short game sucks. She said something like "I'd be as good as them if I had their short game". Uhh... Ya... I think she knows she playing with house money and the 10' thing showed it. Anyway, I think she's already lost, it's just going to take the next short competition to do it.

Sellannee may have the best chance to beat Marcella and probably has the physical skills to be on the LPGA. But even when she smiles and laughs she looks sad and worried. Maybe that's just her thing, but you can't win tournaments if you're really sad and worried. I feel bad for her even when she wins.

Regardless, I'm ashamed to admit my favorite part of the show is that they are actually capturing the cursing. It's probably the most real part of the show...

[kool-aid]

[quote name='78Staff' timestamp='1340124680' post='5128856']
[quote name='kekoa' timestamp='1340123105' post='5128646']
Wow, I had no idea Allison was dating Martin Kaymer. Seems like she'll be fine either way.
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dated... no longer a couple it seems.

MK probably got tired of her grating voice lol.

Ok, that's a bit below the belt, but come on, I can't believe no one has brought up that voice... I mean at first I though she was sick maybe, but it just kept on and on... gives me the willys....
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I like her voice.. and she's just ridiculously hot. I wish she'd tighten up that john daly swing she has so I could see more of her on tv

[PedronNiall]

[quote name='eric_b' timestamp='1340132563' post='5129734']
This is gonna go poorly....but i'm gonna post it anyway....

So all this talk about the relatively poor play on this season's BB has led me to do a little research (you guessed it....I work for the government, so i got time to kill)....so I went to the Symetra tour's website and started digging into some of the stats....one jumped out and hit me in the face, scoring average (actually the money list also smacked me i in the face when i realized how little money there is to be had for these girls....i nearly take home enough in a month to be in the top 50....not to brag, but to point out how difficult it must be for these girls). Now assuming they play par 72 courses week to week....which i think is a resonable assumption....only 1....that's right....ONE....girl has a scoring average below par. A full shot over par puts you in the top 10. Compare that to the LPGA tour where the top 24 are below 72.....in context, even that isn't very good....the PGA tour has 160 players with a scoring average of below 72.....

So what does all this mean.....basically, the girls that can golf....and by that, I mean break par on a fairly consistent basis....are already in the bigs....and that leaves BB with the girls that are probably struggling on the symetra tour (as the ones that are doing ok are focusing on their games cause they'll actually make it to the LPGA)....example: Selanee (not being deragatory....she's my fave on the show) is sitting at 77 avg score....Carling Coffing (last all girls winner): 77.44.....

Dang.

Sorry....one other quick assumption.....I highly doubt you can blame the courses.....i can't imagine they're THAT hard.....or that its conditioning is THAT bad.

Don't get me wrong....any of these girls could give me 10 shots a side and still trounce me.....but i think this speaks volumes towards the quality of golf we're seeing on the show.....
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What are you doing posting intelligent research on this site? =p Interesting info. Most of the time we're shooting from the hip saying that most of those women just don't play as well, especially with scoring around the green, but nice to see some numbers that speak to it one way or the other.

That say, honestly I could deal with a little lack of total game if people were improving and becoming cut-throat, but people are CRYING ten times an episode. You're trying to be the best and leave everyone else in the dust. I understand that women are more emotional, but crying for the loser is not something that you see on the LPGA from week to week and feeling sorry because you outplayed someone else doesn't bode well for making it out on tour.

[RRFireblade]

[quote name='eric_b' timestamp='1340132563' post='5129734']


Don't get me wrong....any of these girls could give me 10 shots a side and still trounce me.....but i think this speaks volumes towards the quality of golf we're seeing on the show.....
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Thier not putting anyone on that show based on golf ability, I think thats pretty obvious.

And by the number of posts b-ching and moaning about it yet still tune in every week to watch, they apparently know what they're doing .

[Awsi Dooger]

[quote name='dciman1' timestamp='1340104200' post='5126950']
During the interviews; the producer's might as well of have Allison sitting beside her luggage and holding a box off tissues. [/quote]

Wow. I guess others thought it was more obvious than I did.

Allison was beaming during the couch clips a week earlier. That was the problem, the glaring contrast from one episode to the next with the logical accompanying assumption. Allison had finally come through in an immunity challenge the prior episode and was immensely proud and satisfied after winning the $5000 rental car prize. This time she was bundled up with the neck scarf and seemingly shrinking away from the camera at the far edge of the couch.

Big Break Academy was very weak tonight and did a disservice to Allison, IMO. More than anyone on the show, she could have benefited from Breed, with tips to shorten and tighten her full swing. Her short game is comparatively fine. Breed really didn't offer advice to Natalia or Allison. He asked what they are thinking prior to a shot then let them play out the nonsense redemption gag. That was it.

[Awsi Dooger]

[quote name='eric_b' timestamp='1340132563' post='5129734']
So all this talk about the relatively poor play on this season's BB has led me to do a little research (you guessed it....I work for the government, so i got time to kill)....so I went to the Symetra tour's website and started digging into some of the stats....one jumped out and hit me in the face, scoring average (actually the money list also smacked me i in the face when i realized how little money there is to be had for these girls....i nearly take home enough in a month to be in the top 50....not to brag, but to point out how difficult it must be for these girls). Now assuming they play par 72 courses week to week....which i think is a resonable assumption....only 1....that's right....ONE....girl has a scoring average below par. A full shot over par puts you in the top 10. Compare that to the LPGA tour where the top 24 are below 72.....in context, even that isn't very good....the PGA tour has 160 players with a scoring average of below 72.....

So what does all this mean.....basically, the girls that can golf....and by that, I mean break par on a fairly consistent basis....are already in the bigs....and that leaves BB with the girls that are probably struggling on the symetra tour (as the ones that are doing ok are focusing on their games cause they'll actually make it to the LPGA)....example: Selanee (not being deragatory....she's my fave on the show) is sitting at 77 avg score....Carling Coffing (last all girls winner): 77.44.....[/quote]

I agree with your premise but the Symetra stats to this point are somewhat misleading. The journeymen types have been contesting every event while some of the better players showed up very recently and either don't have enough rounds to qualify for the stats, or haven't yet rounded into form. The best player on tour so far, Esther Choe, is not in the stats because she played only two events -- winning both -- while otherwise competing on the Ladies European Tour.

The scoring average as a block will go down. Last week the winning score was -13.

Many Big Break alumnae are on Symetra this year, more than any season I can think of. There are at least 6-8 every week. Carling recently got engaged so that may contribute to her lack of focus and poor results. I think she should seek a golf media career. Selanee finally started making cuts but her final rounds have been lousy. That's a trend among Big Break types in general, flopping toward the finish. Sara Brown had one big week with a victory. She's 44th in scoring average but 6th on the money list. I still have no idea how she brainstormed to play LET last week instead of trying to get a jump on an LPGA card via Symetra. Every week is vital considering players of that caliber figure to slide on the money list in the late going. She missed the cut in Switzerland. Classic case of thinking you are better than you are. Nicole Smith is the most consistent Big Breaker on Symetra, and currently in the Top 10 of the money list, but she hasn't managed a top finish in recent events. She'll likely need a win or nearby to maintain Top 10 and an LPGA card.

Others are Nina Rodriguez, Maiya Tanaka, Mallory Blackwelder (recently injured), Blair O'Neal, Annie Brophy, Briana Vega, and occasionally Susan Choi. I'm probably forgetting somebody.

Anya is playing her first Symetra season and I'm starting to believe she may be most legit LPGA possibility among Big Break Atlantis. Long driver. That's the key. Her distance challenge victory over Selanee early in the series was not a fluke. Anya currently averages 261 on Symetra, just above Selanee at 260. Anya missed her first cut last week but her results are fine for a recent college graduate adjusting to a mini tour. She played at Washington. Pac 10 (now 12) golf is very high caliber. Anya's putting form is good, quite basic without troubling aspects like crosshanded. She's weak with wedges but that's to be expected at this point. Somebody jumped on me for suggesting young female golfers tend to have one dimensional games but I'll stick with that.

I wasn't overly impressed with Anya qualifying once for the US Open. But once she did it again, back to back, you've got to pay attention.

Shannon Fish likely will receive some Symetra starts later this summer. She's very low on the priority list after failing to advance at first stage LPGA Q School last year. Symetra now uses the LPGA results to fill out their tour. Prior to last season Symetra had its own qualifying tournament.

[dcmidnight]

Why is it that Anya seems to be the only one whose back story is getting continuing run on this show? I get it, I've seen the clip of her speaking to that group on just about every episode and its a great cause. But you're telling me there are no other girls on the show that have a cause - or an interesting backstory - that they support/work for and might benefit from getting a little pub? I feel like I know nothing about any of the other players on the show at this point.

[FairwaysToHeaven]

this show could be so much better whether the girls actually had more talent or not. the overall gimmicks that they play and horrible job of actually telling the girls backstory.....the only thing that needs a change on this show is the producers, and tom abbott.

[eric_b]

[quote name='sigmapete1' timestamp='1340134136' post='5129908']
[quote name='eric_b' timestamp='1340129044' post='5129354']
[quote name='78Staff' timestamp='1340127693' post='5129166']
eric_b I'm not going to quote the post but yeah we are pretty much in agreement there...
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Thanks.....so you think selanee looks like Julia Stiles too?
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I completely agree on the Julia Stiles thing. I think she kind of sounds like her too, but that could just be my mind playing tricks on me because she looks like her. She is quickly becoming my favorite of the ones left. Although I kinda like Kelly too, she has quite a pair of. . . eyes.

Am I the only one who doesn't really care if they are good enough to play on the LPGA? Bottom line is that it is a show with pretty good looking girls with golf skill superior to most people on this board, playing an assortment of golf skills competitions, and occasionally running around in bikinis. And you guys are complaining that they needed a 6i to go 125 into a strong wind? Geez. They could be 10 handicaps and the show would still be fun to watch. Now the guys version, they better have 12 future major winners or else who cares.
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You're right of course....it doesn't matter how well they play....and to paraphrase RRFireblade (post #399), the girls aren't on the show for their golfing ability.....

I guess i just find it a little silly that this show is giving the girls a chance at the tour.....and they've got to be at least a little out of touch with reality if they think they can make it.....yet they, by and large, seem to think they can make it.....

Just an observation i guess....from a bored government worker.....who loves golf......i guess?

[eric_b]

[quote name='Splitter' timestamp='1340135361' post='5130054']

Kelly cracks me up (in a good way). I bet she could beat most of those girls around her local track with no pressure. She is better than some of her shots indicate. But like all people who don't get enough time in, her short game sucks. She said something like "I'd be as good as them if I had their short game". Uhh... Ya... I think she knows she playing with house money and the 10' thing showed it. Anyway, I think she's already lost, it's just going to take the next short competition to do it.

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Would you elaborate on this statement? I'm genuinely curious. I would argue that everything we've seen from Kelly so far would indicate that she's one of the weaker competitors....she has little to no competative experience, she's hit more bad shots than good, she admitedly has no short game (i mean 2 episodes ago she said she doesn't practice the 20 yard bunker shot....really?).....just sayin'.

[eric_b]

[quote name='Awsi Dooger' timestamp='1340180257' post='5133910']

I agree with your premise but the Symetra stats to this point are somewhat misleading. The journeymen types have been contesting every event while some of the better players showed up very recently and either don't have enough rounds to qualify for the stats, or haven't yet rounded into form. The best player on tour so far, Esther Choe, is not in the stats because she played only two events -- winning both -- while otherwise competing on the Ladies European Tour.

The scoring average as a block will go down. Last week the winning score was -13.

Many Big Break alumnae are on Symetra this year, more than any season I can think of. There are at least 6-8 every week. Carling recently got engaged so that may contribute to her lack of focus and poor results. I think she should seek a golf media career. Selanee finally started making cuts but her final rounds have been lousy. That's a trend among Big Break types in general, flopping toward the finish. Sara Brown had one big week with a victory. She's 44th in scoring average but 6th on the money list. I still have no idea how she brainstormed to play LET last week instead of trying to get a jump on an LPGA card via Symetra. Every week is vital considering players of that caliber figure to slide on the money list in the late going. She missed the cut in Switzerland. Classic case of thinking you are better than you are. Nicole Smith is the most consistent Big Breaker on Symetra, and currently in the Top 10 of the money list, but she hasn't managed a top finish in recent events. She'll likely need a win or nearby to maintain Top 10 and an LPGA card.

Others are Nina Rodriguez, Maiya Tanaka, Mallory Blackwelder (recently injured), Blair O'Neal, Annie Brophy, Briana Vega, and occasionally Susan Choi. I'm probably forgetting somebody.

Anya is playing her first Symetra season and I'm starting to believe she may be most legit LPGA possibility among Big Break Atlantis. Long driver. That's the key. Her distance challenge victory over Selanee early in the series was not a fluke. Anya currently averages 261 on Symetra, just above Selanee at 260. Anya missed her first cut last week but her results are fine for a recent college graduate adjusting to a mini tour. She played at Washington. Pac 10 (now 12) golf is very high caliber. Anya's putting form is good, quite basic without troubling aspects like crosshanded. She's weak with wedges but that's to be expected at this point. Somebody jumped on me for suggesting young female golfers tend to have one dimensional games but I'll stick with that.

I wasn't overly impressed with Anya qualifying once for the US Open. But once she did it again, back to back, you've got to pay attention.

Shannon Fish likely will receive some Symetra starts later this summer. She's very low on the priority list after failing to advance at first stage LPGA Q School last year. Symetra now uses the LPGA results to fill out their tour. Prior to last season Symetra had its own qualifying tournament.
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thanks for the reply....i appreciate the additional info.....

You're right about the stats being misleading.....i should've remembered the old addage: there are lies, damn lies and statistics.

[deadsolid...shank]

[quote name='eric_b' timestamp='1340129044' post='5129354']
[quote name='78Staff' timestamp='1340127693' post='5129166']
eric_b I'm not going to quote the post but yeah we are pretty much in agreement there...
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Thanks.....so you think selanee looks like Julia Stiles too?
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Thank you! I've been trying to place who she looks like, to no avail. When you said Julia Stiles I had to look her up since I didn't know who she was and thats when it clicked. My wife and daughter used to watch a move called "10 things I hate about you", and thats who it was she reminds me of.

Personally, I could care less (yes, I used it that way because I care a little bit, that phrase gets butchered on here a lot) that they really don't seem to have the game for the top level, you get a little eye candy in a nice setting playing a little golf. If I want to watch strictly good (or better) golf I'll watch the tour players, but it's kind of fun watching how they handle the pressure. I do admit though, it is a little dull when there is no "bad guy".

[eric_b]

Ok....this is getting out of hand. Everyone is providing varying opinions that are being met with friendly debate and discussion.....this is NOT the golfwrx I know and love.

What happened? Has the eye candy mellowed us all.....

If these girls can turn a 14 paged golfwrx thread into a friendly discussion....who knows what they can do! Maybe they can solve the slow play issue.....7 hours rounds, if i'm playing with Meghan Hardin, who cares? Belly putters....being used by Allison or Selanee....fantastic idea.

I think we just found the answer to world peace.....

[WildDog06]

[quote name='eric_b' timestamp='1340206475' post='5135448']
Ok....this is getting out of hand. Everyone is providing varying opinions that are being met with friendly debate and discussion.....this is NOT the golfwrx I know and love.

What happened? Has the eye candy mellowed us all.....

If these girls can turn a 14 paged golfwrx thread into a friendly discussion....who knows what they can do! Maybe they can solve the slow play issue.....7 hours rounds, if i'm playing with Meghan Hardin, who cares? Belly putters....being used by Allison or Selanee....fantastic idea.

I think we just found the answer to world peace.....
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I'm not really sure Anya would be down for world peace, she seems too angry for that.

But I like where you're going with this idea.

[amaeyzing]

One comment made by Kelly on the last show that " I can play as well as the other girls if I had a short game" blew me away. She hits bunker shots like a beginner.
(Being mildly attractive aside)
1) How can you be competitive or expect to be a pro without a short game?
2) How can you make it to a show where the end result in mind is a professional career in golf without a short game?

And an observation - she seems to have a pretty bad inferiority complex when it comes to comparing her game to those of other contestants

[Splitter]

[quote name='eric_b' timestamp='1340196680' post='5134464']
[quote name='Splitter' timestamp='1340135361' post='5130054']

Kelly cracks me up (in a good way). I bet she could beat most of those girls around her local track with no pressure. She is better than some of her shots indicate. But like all people who don't get enough time in, her short game sucks. She said something like "I'd be as good as them if I had their short game". Uhh... Ya... I think she knows she playing with house money and the 10' thing showed it. Anyway, I think she's already lost, it's just going to take the next short competition to do it.

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Would you elaborate on this statement? I'm genuinely curious. I would argue that everything we've seen from Kelly so far would indicate that she's one of the weaker competitors....she has little to no competative experience, she's hit more bad shots than good, she admitedly has no short game (i mean 2 episodes ago she said she doesn't practice the 20 yard bunker shot....really?).....just sayin'.
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Shaddup putz! If Anya was here, you'd make her puke.

Just wanted to even out the thread for you.

I agree, she's weaker. Probably the weakest at this point for sure.

I just think she has a better game than they show. She's nailed a couple of challenges when the pressure wasn't on FULL or when she didn't have anything to lose. She probably had a pretty good game in College and then lost it somewhere along the way. We all know that person.. They can usually get around at Par or better on their home track. She a classic player, not practicer and it really shows up in her short game or when she's nervous. At 30 she probably hasn't played competitive golf in 8 years...

That's all....

[eric_b]

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Kelly cracks me up (in a good way). I bet she could beat most of those girls around her local track with no pressure. She is better than some of her shots indicate. But like all people who don't get enough time in, her short game sucks. She said something like "I'd be as good as them if I had their short game". Uhh... Ya... I think she knows she playing with house money and the 10' thing showed it. Anyway, I think she's already lost, it's just going to take the next short competition to do it.

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Would you elaborate on this statement? I'm genuinely curious. I would argue that everything we've seen from Kelly so far would indicate that she's one of the weaker competitors....she has little to no competative experience, she's hit more bad shots than good, she admitedly has no short game (i mean 2 episodes ago she said she doesn't practice the 20 yard bunker shot....really?).....just sayin'.
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Shaddup putz! If Anya was here, you'd make her puke.

Just wanted to even out the thread for you.

I agree, she's weaker. Probably the weakest at this point for sure.

I just think she has a better game than they show. She's nailed a couple of challenges when the pressure wasn't on FULL or when she didn't have anything to lose. She probably had a pretty good game in College and then lost it somewhere along the way. We all know that person.. They can usually get around at Par or better on their home track. She a classic player, not practicer and it really shows up in her short game or when she's nervous. At 30 she probably hasn't played competitive golf in 8 years...

That's all....
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Nothing wrong with a malicious word or two i say.....but thank you, this thread was getting to nice.....

Anyway, fair point about kelly.....she may have the game under certain conditions....heck, i got beat by my pregnant sister on her home course....sure helps when she knows where all the f#%$ing ponds (which jumped up and grabbed 3 of my f$#%ing balls) are.

[PedronNiall]

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Shaddup putz! If Anya was here, you'd make her puke.

Just wanted to even out the thread for you.

I agree, she's weaker. Probably the weakest at this point for sure.

I just think she has a better game than they show. She's nailed a couple of challenges [b]when the pressure wasn't on FULL[/b] or [b]when she didn't have anything to lose[/b]. She probably had a pretty good game in College and then lost it somewhere along the way. We all know that person.. They can usually get around at Par or better on their home track. She a classic player, not practicer and it really shows up in her short game or when she's nervous. At 30 she probably hasn't played competitive golf in 8 years...

That's all....
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That doesn't bode well for anyone in a competitive situation.

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Big Break Academy was very weak tonight and did a disservice to Allison, IMO. More than anyone on the show, she could have benefited from Breed, with tips to shorten and tighten her full swing. Her short game is comparatively fine. Breed really didn't offer advice to Natalia or Allison. He asked what they are thinking prior to a shot then let them play out the nonsense redemption gag. That was it.
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Agreed, I was pretty disapointed with this weeks BBA... Sure they had to condense everything since they had two players, but it really felt like Allison got the short end of the stick. Shorten that swing and she'd likely hit it just as far and much cleaner.