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I was bored today at work and was wondering what you guys think is the hardest modern iron set to hit consistently. Just for giggles mind you... KZG ZO's, Muira baby blades? What say you?

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Ping G 10.5 set at 9.9, tour ad di 6x
Titleist 915F set at A4 (16.5), Rouge Black 80s
Titleist 910H set at A1 (19), Diamana Whiteboard 90s
Titleist 714 AP2 4-PW, KBS Tour 120s
Titleist SM6 52(bent to 51), 56, 60. M grinds on the 56 and 60 F on the 51
Cameron Squareback.
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I've never heard of the Maltby playability factor

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Ping G 10.5 set at 9.9, tour ad di 6x
Titleist 915F set at A4 (16.5), Rouge Black 80s
Titleist 910H set at A1 (19), Diamana Whiteboard 90s
Titleist 714 AP2 4-PW, KBS Tour 120s
Titleist SM6 52(bent to 51), 56, 60. M grinds on the 56 and 60 F on the 51
Cameron Squareback.
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I have the mizuno mp68s they were below 400. Does that mean they are hard to hit

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Titleist TSi2 15* Graphite Design Tour AD DI 8s
Titleist 910F 17* UST Axivcore Red 79s

Titleist 910H UST Mamiya Red
Mizuno MP-68 4-PW KBS C Taper Stiff+
Mizuno MP T-11 52,56,60 KBS Stiff
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The r7 draw? Really, those things look massive

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Ping G 10.5 set at 9.9, tour ad di 6x
Titleist 915F set at A4 (16.5), Rouge Black 80s
Titleist 910H set at A1 (19), Diamana Whiteboard 90s
Titleist 714 AP2 4-PW, KBS Tour 120s
Titleist SM6 52(bent to 51), 56, 60. M grinds on the 56 and 60 F on the 51
Cameron Squareback.
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my mp-32's are almost impossible to hit only because my wife keeps them locked up and hidden. Also I thought cleveland cg tours/cg1 tours were tough but fair. I saw 2 new sets in myrtle beach this weekend for cheap. I should have bought them. THe new cleveland 588 I didn't like I don't know if it was because they were hard to hit or what.

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I think my macgregor pro mb's are like a 240 or something? I don't get it, they seem fine, 3 iron is a little tough but not brutal

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This looks a few years old, but has a pretty good list of irons.

I didn't know that the MPF went into NEGATIVE numbers! What does that mean? No sweet spot? Sweet spot in the hosel?

[url="http://www.franklygolf.com/2009MPFRatingsChart.pdf"]http://www.franklygolf.com/2009MPFRatingsChart.pdf[/url]

PING G25 9.5*
PING G15 15.5*
PING i15 20*
PING i3 Blade
PING Tour-W 50*, 54*, 58*
Guerin Rife 2-Bar Mallet

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I would say the RBZ Max or HiBore or FT Ibrid irons are probably the hardest. Seriously. I can't stand to look down at them. They shouldn't even be called "irons" and they look nothing like an iron at address, but more like a little toaster on a shaft.

I'd take a set of Miura Baby Blades any day and twice on Sunday!!

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[quote name='highergr0und' timestamp='1347848428' post='5649403']
For me, any left handed iron. I just don't turn around well
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thats classic. But for me, I cannot hit any iron with a cavity. I know it makes no sense, but the most cavity looking club I can hit is the irons I play now, Ap2's. Prior, i had 07 Callaway X Forged, and TM Rac MB TP's. Cavity backs just look to big and bulky for my eye.

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Never before heard of the MPF, so I searched the 2011 pdf and found that the Taylor Made Burner SuperLaunch, a club made with the intent to help (SGI) is harder to hit than the CB Tour Preferred irons. According to such guide. LOL!

Cobra Aerojet, 8 Hzrdus Yellow
Tee C721 13, Tee EX10 Beta 18. Hzrdus Yellow
Tour Edge E723 Hy, 22 with AD DI 85S
Tour Edge E723 Hy, 25 with S+ 90S
ZX7i 6-PW, Nippon 105S
Vokey 50/10F, 56/12S, 60/04T
Scotty Cameron Mil Spec 350 Black Oxide
Titleist -ProV1 balls


[url="http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/1152161-linkerpans-wtib-2015-edition/"]WITB Link[/url]

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The first time I met my golf pro, he told me that if the shaft is fitted properly (assuming lie and length here as well), that it really doesn't matter what the clubhead is. Essentially, if the club is fitted properly, then it's as much down to confidence and aesthetic as anything else.

One of the reason people find musclebacks so "hard to hit" is that they're usually found with DGS300s; as you move more GI, you tend to find lighter and more flexible shafts.
Also, demo clubs in MBs are frequently set upright and sometimes over-length.

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as far as i'm concerned, a maxfli aussie blade is the toughest by a mile. i hit a t zoid pro 2 iron better than any club in my bag and fancy myself a bit of a ball striker but those things were way too much for me. i took a look at the 2 iron of the guy i played with the other day. The sole of the club was thinner than the hosel.

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[quote name='SundayBag' timestamp='1347865216' post='5650169']
[b]as far as i'm concerned, a maxfli aussie blade is the toughest by a mile.[/b] i hit a t zoid pro 2 iron better than any club in my bag and fancy myself a bit of a ball striker but those things were way too much for me. i took a look at the 2 iron of the guy i played with the other day. The sole of the club was thinner than the hosel.
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Not really. They're not G20s or whatever but they ain't bad. I play them occasionally with no issues what so ever.

It's all relative and ironically they're in my Sunday bag :derisive:

TM '07 Burner TP 8.5° Protopype 80X
TM '07 Burner TP 14.5° PX 10A2
Adams Pro Idea Gold 18° PX HB6
Mizuno MP 32 3-PW DGS300
Cleveland 588 RTG 51°/56°/60°
The Wilson 8802

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I would say the Nike vr pro blade. More because of the sharp heel than any other reason, there's no forgiveness on the lie angle. A rolled heel design let's you get away with coming in to the ball at the wrong angle a little more.

Driver: Ping G440 LST 9 Driver both with Mitsubsihi Diamana WB 43X
Three Wood: I am lost. Help me find a new one!!!Titleist GT2 13.5 Mitsubishi Diamana BB73X or Ping G440 LST 15 Fujikura Ventus Blue + 7S

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Wedge: Mizuno T3 50, T1 54 P, T1 60 X Nippon Modus 105 Wedge
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[quote name='Honman' timestamp='1347868778' post='5650217']
I would say the Nike vr pro blade. More because of the sharp heel than any other reason, there's no forgiveness on the lie angle. A rolled heel design let's you get away with coming in to the ball at the wrong angle a little more.
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Agreed, I saw these in a pro shop recently and asked aloud if anyone could hit these? One of the pros there said, "Tiger." It looked like you could shave with them.

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hmmm The Little One?

AI Smoke Max @ 7* +8g front weight - Diamana DF 70tx(tipped 1.25”)

BRNR Mini 13.5(@12.5*) 43.25” - Diamana DF 70tx(tipped 1.75”)

TSR 3h 19* - AV Raw White 9x  -OR-  Fourteen Type 7 (19*) - $ taper black 125 s+(HS 1x)

Miura CB 1008 4-P - $ taper black 125 s+(HS 1x)

Cleveland RTX 6 50/55 - X100

Titleist SM9 60.12 D grind - S400

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The reason that the TM R7 draw irons received a low MPF rating is because they moved mass towards the heel, shortening the "C" dimension (the Cg location relative to the hosel). So in order to strike those irons on the sweet spot, you have to come closer to shanking them. The R7 draw also had a relatively high Cg location, which also lowers the MPF rating.

The manufacturers intent on moving mass toward the heel was that on center strikes, there would be a twisting of the clubhead open which will induce gear effect draw spin. The problem with this idea is that eventually players get feedback from their clubs which conditions them to strike the club on the sweet spot, in this case, very close to the hosel.

So draw biased irons is overall a bad idea, IMO.

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Titleist 670MB's, "1st edition", modern, yet a few years old. They were later modified to make them easier, but... I had them in the bag for 3 yrs. When I was down at Titleist, I was told approx. 21 guys on tour had them in the bag, with Ernie Els the star. They were tough to master.

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