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I gamed the 716 TMB and the UDI. Although the 716 was quite an older model it was really good. Much easier to shape than the UDI, that also means the UDI went a little straighter on the less than perfect shots. But that 716 had the biggest sweetspot you can imagine and was quite a bit easier to hit low stingers with than with the UDI. The UDI always felt like it wanted to launch the ball quite high for its 18 degrees loft. The 716 sure went lower with the same baseline swing and the same shaft. (I might be a little biased as I loved the weight and balance of the 716, the UDI never felt that perfect, that is a very personal difference that has nothing to do with the quality of the club.)

Thank you! So the higher launch and more forgiveness is no more than pr talk.

Reading some articles on these clubs it seems the T250U has a heavier head than the T250. Although this is on the bigger golf sites it seems a copy and paste line, so I am not sure if this comes from Titleist. The T250U offering is 0.25 inches longer standard, so that might be the 'relative weight' difference. 'heavier' because it's a fraction longer with the two heads heaving the same actual weight. Reading these articles makes me wonder why Titleist even makes the standard T250 2 and 3 irons other than them being a taper tip.

On the website Titleist states: "T250•U is specifically designed for higher launch, effortless carry, and optimized for use with high-performing graphite hybrid shafts, providing greater versatility as a driving iron compared to a standard T250 iron." Does this just mean a lower CG, or did they put another type of clubface in? Loft is identical. Another difference seems to be that the U is suited for parallel tipped shafts, In the T200 the set 2 iron was said to be lighter to compensate for the steel shafts, maybe that's the case with the T250 too?

Tested with the Ventus Red hybrid. Somehow I usually start fading balls with driving irons while that isn't my natural flight, with the Ventus Red itś closer to the irons and fairway woods. (Another reason why the Ping idi seems great as the head isn't too long heel to toe.)

Somehow they don't want fitters or stores to sell those.. I am not sure why Ping is being so different than all the other golf brands, they must have a reason to complicate things that can be so simple😳

Ping doesn't offer the shaft I would use and they are vague when I asked if it's possible to leave the tip weight out. I've never had any trouble changing tip weights and shafts in irons (other brands) but I've read about certain challenging Ping model rebuilds on WRX. Is the iDi expected to be a trouble club when it comes to reshafting and the tip weight? I am a little reluctant ordering one with a shaft I will not use and probably has a tip weight too heavy for a +1.5" build.😳

Callaway Apex TCB. Big reason for this is the way the head weight can be altered without messing with the center of gravtity much. The TCB tops the CB and MB with better turf interaction.

Maybe the offset is just right to counteract the longer blade and the mass in the toe. It makes sense that a club like this has more offset to get the same face closure a smaller iron with less offset would have. Hovland explains somewhere that he never liked these slightly bigger driving irons because of the bigger tendency to fade than with his other irons, but he does use this new one. (That might be because of the offset...)