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I was being sarcastic. Even I criticized him earlier in the thread. He makes money putting it all out there so, you know. He’s a big boy, he can handle it.

100 percent. I’m so tired of some of the usual suspects coming in here and criticizing BeBetter, as well as some other guys like Micah, that could easily give everyone here at least 4 shots a side.

Well, the real genius behind it is that the student is already doing what is optimum for his core, so they just say keep doing that and don’t have poor self esteem about it. Keep early extending because that is what you are supposed to do.

I like people that are concise.

…where magical low sliders are offered in abundance.

Along those lines, but sometimes full commitment to stupid works…..sometimes.

The issue is he later went to Superstition Mountain, and decided to kinda sorta do some of that stuff. But to get that stuff to work, you have go Full Superstition. If you just do half of it, you’ll struggle fighting snap dragons.

He seems like a nice guy and is hard not to root for but: Anyone who knows what they are looking at can see that he has the face dead shut and under plane, and then tries to hold on for dear life. He also goes full stretch/shorten with the differential between hips and shoulders, so that part is trying to snap shut on him coming into the ball. So, learning how to spin your hips like a banshee can be an emergency operation to counteract those deficiencies. It would be better to just fix the face angle and get the sequencing correct….but, you know. Also, if I was a betting man, his new wedges were built with a lie angle quite a bit flatter than his previous ones, which is a good way to bandaid a pull. And lastly, no doubt, when he gets fit for a new driver, someone will set him up with a driver with a lot of fade bias….and that will be treated as a revelation.

Nels, just to catch you up….are you aware of the inside joke here?

Quality of the instructor is the metric, and the indoor facilities tend to have the better teachers.

To my fellow WRX members, I had a bit of an ignorant outburst yesterday essentially complaining about the recent overemphasis on the data you get when measuring GRF’s on force plates. My premise was that you should be able to deduce what that data looks like by just viewing people’s swings on 2D video. Having received quite a bit of thoughtful feedback from the community, I’ve really started to change my thinking on this. What occurred to me late last night is that we are operating fast in a sensory environment, so being able to fine tune those sensors is critical to precise performance at these higher speeds. The basic operator/sensors are the feet, the hands, and the pelvis. The bridge from the feet/pelvis is the shoulder assembly, and the command center for coordinating the various relationships are the eyes and inner ears (the vestibular-ocular response system). Thus, if you just look at 2D video, you’re almost completely ignorant to the incredibly complex flow of information across the system. One of the tools you would use to decode the relationship running through the feet (which has huge consequences downstream to the other components) is force plates. So, to the implicit question of whether an instructor can really give an adequate and complete lesson without that tool (without quite a bit of guessing mixed in), the answer is almost assuredly no. That doesn’t mean you shouldn’t post videos of your swing here. You might some good information, but until you have a good instructor measuring and interpreting GRF data for you, the chances of getting a complete picture are relatively slim. I want to thank everyone here for helping me understand this concept a little better.

Yeah, I think that was Iacas’s point. He might suspect something using only the camera, but would use force plate data to confirm it and give him a more granular understanding of what’s actually happening.

Yeah, on second thought, you’re probably right.

You're taking me a bit to seriously...but, since we are being serious, I pretty much agree with the last two paragraphs. But on the first paragraph, no. If someone said you can do a really good club fitting with out a launch monitor, they would be a moron. Much easier to guess GRF through video and eyeballs than guess ball speed, launch and spin with eyeballs....especially if there is any wind at all......and in a room into a net.....fuuuugitt about it.

Of course he can.

Is that the Hobbit Dragon? I love that dragon!

Are you talking about me? Which one of the swing videos are you talking about?

Wow man, nice job.

If you can't see it in the camera, you might as well quit that side of things and just move into club fitting.

Furthermore, I might give someone permission to get on my plates if they said they were doing it mostly for path work.

I'm trying to self sabotage my technical street cred and you just ruined it.

Unless your name starts with H and ends with ogan.

You kinda dumbed down my statement, but that's fine.

I once knew a guy who's last name was Tator and his nickname was "Tater" so....Tater Tator. And he would become kinda annoyed if you pronounced them exactly the same. It had to sound like Tater "taTOR".

Oh yes....a thousand times yes.